Mike: I still hold out that this team is more talented than their record belies

Tom: Ollie is not killing them as badly as the bullpen

Mike: which is mainly due to Heilman being a crazy man

Tom: Heilman’s not a crazy man, they’re torturing him

Mike: how

Tom: well, he’s a crazy man because they’re torturing him

Mike: asking him to go do his job and get people out

Tom: they’re constantly making him do something he doesn’t want to do
Tom: with no hope of letting him do something else

Mike: awwwww

Tom: It sucks when your job tortures you
Tom: whatever, dude

Mike: unless you job is, of course, to make millions of dollars to play baseball

Tom: When your job sucks and your hate it, it doesn’t matter what you’re making
Tom: especially if you can’t leave

Mike: altho if Ollie puts anymore 1 out 6 run gems together, maybe Heilman would get a shot
Mike: dude, Aaron Heilman is acting like Happy Gilmore
Mike: demanding that he’s a hockey player when he’s worlds better at golf
Mike: Aaron Heilman had ONE good start, and proved he’s a bullpen lynchpin
Mike: over numerous seasons
Mike: so the mets should just have him do something he’s not as good at because he wants to do it
Mike: why not have Reyes play catcher too because he gets an urge
Mike: if Heilman isn’t accepting of his role it makes him a shitty teammate….if he was black they’d call him a cancer

Tom: well that’s true
Tom: I’m not saying he’s a good teammate
Tom: It’s just very obvious that he wants to be a starter and that he thinks he’d make a good starter and he’s watching the team use shitty guys like Claudio Vargas and Nelson Figuroa when he thinks he’s at least as good as they are

Mike: well Nelson Figueroa was really good somehow

Tom: for like a day and a half

Mike: well if Heilman is supposed to be an important bullpen guy, he ain’t starting

Tom: I’m not disagreeing with you
Tom: I’m just saying that if you hate your job and you hate what you do you’re not going to be as good at it
Tom: all i’m saying
Tom: and you can say “man up and do your job” all you want but it doesn’t help any

Mike: then they should deal him
Mike: if you’re right

Tom: i agree
Tom: i said that last year

Mike: this is all assuming you know what he’s thinking

Tom: right

Mike: i also call shenanigans on the money not mattering
Mike: bull
Mike: i hate my job
Mike: if i made millions i’d be fine with it

Tom: bull
Tom: the money is irrelevant. He’s in a job where everyone is making millions. And all he wants to do is this other thing that’s pretty much the same as his current job, which he likes doing better, tends to be less stressful, and mediocre guys make more millions.

Mike: true
Mike: but hey, he’s really good at what the company makes him do, least he was

Tom: i agree
Tom: his whip as a starter was 1.5
Tom: his whip as a reliever is 1.1
Tom: but he gives up home runs
Tom: which is less bad for starters

Mike: i don’t see how HR;’s are worse for RP’s

Tom: I think it’s one of those dreaded “mental things”
Tom: home runs aren’t backbreaking in the 1st
Tom: they can be in the 8th
Tom: oh yeah, and he’s dealing with a home stadium that hates him

Mike: they cheered him last night
Mike: because, you know….he didn’t fuck up
Mike: that’s the thing about the whole booing a guy thing….it’s not hatred, it’s saying “f*cking sh*t man, you’re better than this, man up”

Tom: you can’t boo a guy every time he effs up

Mike: you can after enough eff ups
Mike: altho heilman is a special case because he also whined about starting and everyone remembers that
Mike: nobody likes a whiny guy
Mike: man up
Mike: do your job

Tom: he’s not whining
Tom: He’s never said a word
Tom: he’s never demanded a trade
Tom: he had a point
Tom: “I just pitched a cg 1-hitter and they’re sending me to the pen. I guess I needed to throw a no hitter”
Tom: True and funny

Mike: yes it was
Mike: holy
Mike: I just figured out Heilman
Mike: he can’t pitch with a guy on 3rd
Mike: scroll down to “by situation”
Mike: the avg against spikes a ton